Interview: Tommy Wirkola on making Christmas naughty again with Violent Night 2

After proving that Santa Claus could dispatch mercenaries with the same ease he delivered presents, director Tommy Wirkola‘s Violent Night earned an unlikely place alongside the festive classics many audiences return to every December. Beneath the gloriously excessive violence and gleefully inventive action was a surprisingly sincere Christmas story, one that found David Harbour’s weary Saint Nick rediscovering both his purpose and his belief in humanity.

For Violent Night 2, Wirkola isn’t interested in simply repeating that formula. Instead, he places Santa on the naughty list, strips him of his confidence, introduces a formidable Mrs. Claus in Kristen Bell, and trades a family mansion for a shopping mall inspired by the moral landscapes of classic Westerns. The result is a sequel that promises bigger action, deeper mythology and, perhaps most importantly, an even stronger emotional core.

Speaking with our Peter Gray as the trailer for the sequel releases, Wirkola discusses finding a fresh emotional journey for Santa, carefully expanding the character’s mysterious Viking origins, balancing outrageous violence with genuine festive warmth, and why protecting the beating heart of Violent Night mattered just as much as delivering bigger, bloodier holiday mayhem.

One of the things that I liked about the first film was Santa gradually rediscovered who he was. This time we see he’s landed himself on the naughty list. As a storyteller, is it more interesting to write a hero who’s questioning whether he deserves redemption, rather than one who’s simply trying to save Christmas again?

For sure, yes. Santa is an interesting character to base a movie around, and since we did the first one about him rediscovering himself and finding his mojo and questioning everything, we (asked) this time, “How can we still have a journey for our hero where it goes somewhere substantial without repeating itself?” That’s obviously the big story here. The last (film) was our Die Hard tribute, which was pretty obvious for everyone to see, and this time we focused on another setting that is used a lot in Christmas movies, which is malls. We tried a few different things, but still had to focus on David (Harbour) as our Santa.

And obviously we have David, but there’s Kristen Bell entering as Mrs. Claus. I like that she seems just as a capable, if not more so, when it comes to inflicting damage. Was the exciting part introducing a new action hero, or was it more exploring what sort of relationship could realistically exist between two people who have centuries of shared history and emotional baggage?

We debated so much about Mrs. Claus, because we knew we wanted to involve her somehow and expand on the myth. David’s been travelling to a lot of conventions and people have come to him a lot and asked about the movie and this character, and the one thing people have asked the most about is the backstory, the Viking story and Mrs. Claus. Without spoiling anything, we really wanted to have fun with that and use the Viking backstory that we had a glimpse of in the first (movie). She’s introduced in the movie in a really cool way, and she’s as badass as him, maybe even more, like you said. But it all ties into Santa Claus, who he is and where he came from.

Going off that, with a sequel like this, how do you know when expanding the mythology enriches the mystery instead of explaining too much? Is that hard to balance?

Oh yeah, for sure. I remember the first few drafts, and we shot a lot more than we used. In the first movie, it’s literally just one scene where he tells the kid a little about himself, and then we have that one shot of him in the battlefield. Still, people were so obsessed about that. We didn’t want to explain too much in this. We wanted to keep a lot of stuff mysterious, especially when it comes to Santa’s powers and the technicality of how he became Santa. We’re trying to expand on that a little here. Fill out some blanks without going overboard with it. It certainly was a balance thing, because we don’t want to bog it down too much with the backstory.

When we spoke last time, you said it was important that Violent Night still feel like a genuine Christmas movie, despite all the mayhem. Has making a second film changed what Christmas actually means to this world, or is it protecting that sincerity still the most important thing?

Yes, for sure. I can’t talk too much because it’s definitely a spoiler with how it all resolves, but I would say even more that this one is really about the spirit of Christmas and what it means to Santa. Hopefully the audience will go on the journey with him. It’s still the trick, it’s still the balance. We go to very dark and funny places on this one, but we always try to keep that Christmas spirit alive.

Kristen Bell as Mrs. Claus in Violent Night 2 (Universal Pictures)

I know that (screenwriters) Pat Casey and Josh Miller have mentioned that this film leans into Western influences. What was it about that genre that felt like a natural step for Santa? Was it the iconography, the moral code, or simply just the chance to put Father Christmas into a different cinematic language?

I think all of those things you mentioned, and also the fact that what Pat and Josh really did was a brilliant move where they made the mall into a miniature Western town. They have the old shop owner that is in trouble, and all the stereotypes inside this mall, so it is this mix of classical westerns where (Santa) has to step up and defend this tiny community against this evil tyrant who has them all in the palm of his hand. Santa’s journey really fits into that kind of Western mythology as well, and, as a movie nerd, I jumped on that moment and wanted to explore it as much as we could. I’m so proud of the film.

The first film constantly walked that incredibly fine line where something was grotesque one second and then genuinely heartfelt the next. Does finding that balance become easier when you know the tone? Or is it harder because audiences understand the joke?

That’s a good question. Instinctively when we started (the film) you want to give the audiences (what they want), but you have to push it further, right? You want to see how far you can push it. In the U.S. they do a lot of (test screenings), which I’m not a huge fan of, but it’s really good to just sit in a crowd in a theatre and feel that balance. You get the biggest answers from those test screenings. We did a bit of testing on this one, and you could feel where we went too far or didn’t go far enough. That really helped find that tricky balance. We didn’t want too many jokes. We wanted to have those dramatic moments. Even though we’re in a heightened universe, the actors have to really sell it, even with the crazy fights, set pieces, gore…all of that. The actors understood the tone going in.

I think we actually went bigger when it came to embracing the beating heart of a Christmas movie and what that means for the character. There’s a big set piece in the movie where I really embraced the kind of movies I loved growing up. The Sam Raimi set piece fights. We really went for it. I think the combination of those two things, stretching them a little bit more , but never losing sight of that big beating heart. That’s always the key. It’s a delicate balace. (Laughs) that was a long answer.

The first film was this genuinely touching Christmas movie underneath everything, and I’m sure Violent Night has now become part of people’s annual holiday viewing. Do you feel a responsibility to protect what people love about it or is part of the fun risking upsetting those expectations every time?

When we made the first (film), that was certainly the hope that people would revisit it. I have my classical roster of movies that I always watch, and Universal (Pictures) will tell us too, their streaming numbers shoot up every Christmas. We see the tweets coming back, and all that. It’s great to see that people embrace it as a kind of traditional Christmas movie for them. But the danger is doing the same thing, so we want to try new things.  Again, without spoiling (Violent Night 2) we took a couple of big swings that I hope people really like. You want to top what came before without repeating it. That’s like every sequel ever made, right?

I watch it every Christmas. I own the Blu-ray. It’s part of the tradition. I’m excited for this one. I was already on board because I loved the first one, but seeing this trailer and knowing the dynamic of him being on the naughty list, as well as Kristen Bell coming in and wielding shit…it looks incredible. I hope I can talk to you again once I’ve seen the film in its entirety.

Thank you, man. Yeah, the trailer is great, and it’s still holding back on so many of the other characters in there. There’s Joe Pantoliano’s character, Jared Harris’s character, Daniela (Melchior)…we have a great roster of characters. It’s hard to say anything without spoiling much, but yeah we really expand on the myth and build on it. David just cares so much. He cares so much about this property and this character. He really brought so much to this film, and he really wanted it to be something fresh and fun and original. It’s great to have a partner like that.

Violent Night 2 is scheduled for release in Australian theatres on December 3rd, 2026.

Peter Gray

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